Retailers, you’re losing me
I’ve ranted about this before (see Brick and Mortars, Don’t Blame Us) and the situation is worsening. It is getting to the point where if one wants to buy something other than an automobile or groceries, leaving the house is a fool’s errand.
A little over a year ago, I purchased a wristwatch. My last watch mysteriously stopped and so I decided to move up the price ladder from my previous watch. Watches, like pens, are items that can get very expensive. I didn’t want to go into the stratosphere, but I believed it would be worthwhile to get out of the sub-$100 range, especially if it meant getting a self-powered watch that wouldn’t have the potential for damage during battery replacement. That means a self-winding or automatic mechanical watch or a solar-powered quartz watch.
Finding my watch
I did my research online and settled on a Citizen Calibre 3100. The two features other than the appearance which I found appealing are Citizen’s Eco-Drive which powers by any form of light, and the «perpetual» calendar, which remembers the month and year, eliminating the need to reset the calendar after months with less than 30 days even during leap years. Quartz timing doesn’t have the romance of an automatic, but it is much more precise. At about $400 it’s not cheap but a long way from the four- and five-digit pricetags the prestige brands carry.
Once I had decided on the watch I wanted, I set out in search of shops where I could purchase one, only to find that not a single Citizen dealer in the City of San Francisco carried the desired model. Of course I can’t expect every dealer to carry every type of watch, but each dealer had only two or three models on display. I asked at every store I went to if they had more in stock or if the watch could be special ordered. Most shopkeepers were more interested in convincing me that I wanted something else. Not one of them (with the exception of the Citizen representative I spoke to at Macy’s — but he wasn’t a Macy’s employee) knew the watch I wanted to without opening up a catalog. I’m not talking about knowing specifics by the model number, I’m talking about knowing that Citizen sells a line of watches called Calibre. Special orders might arrive within two weeks.
Two weeks? Seriously? I gave up, ordered it online from a company in Las Vegas and had it in my mailbox in three days.
That was disappointing, but I knew that there was some chance that I wouldn’t find one of that year’s models in a store. What convinced me of the sad state of affairs was what happened when I tried to get the band replaced.
Fool’s errand #2: trying to get service
Tourneau has thirty-three stores in the United States. I don’t believe they sell any watches under a thousand dollars, and several models they have on display exceed the ten thousand dollar mark. Tourneau claims to have the largest service and repair center in the US. The Tourneau store in San Francisco doesn’t sell Citizen watches, but the store next door, Watch Gear, does. Watch Gear is owned by Tourneau, so when I inquired about getting a replacement band I was sent to Tourneau where all service is handled.
I walked in, waited for one of the elegantly dressed sales representatives to notice me, and explained. The gentleman who spoke with me was all too happy to get my watchband order out of the way so that he could get on to other things. He took my name, phone number, the model of the watch, everything he needed, then told me he would call me.
The wait
That was December 26th. I know, a terrible day to try to get anything done. The store was swamped. When I hadn’t heard anything back by the end of the first week of January, I dropped in to check on the status. They didn’t have any record of anything put in under my name. So I chalked it up to going in on the day when things were busiest and most likely to get lost in the shuffle. So I went through it all again. This time I was told that it would take about a month to get the watchband in. They said then that they would call me once it arrived.
It was coming up on Valentine’s Day when I called to check. I was told then that my watchband was en route, and that it would arrive on Thursday.
The wait starts again
Thursday came and went and I never received a call. I got sick in February and I was swamped with work for a while, so I let it slide and finally made it over to Tourneau to inquire about my watchband in the beginning of April. I explained that I thought it was odd that I hadn’t received my phone call and the woman at the service counter went into the back. Every few minutes she would peek out to see if I was still there, and assure me that she was still looking.
Now there was no record that I had ever ordered anything. There were a few watchbands that didn’t have anyone’s name associated with them, but none seemed to match my watch. Forty-five minutes later, I left having given my name and number a third time.
I have to give the «Service Expeditor» some credit here. He told me that he had recently taken over that store’s service department and that the department was a mess. Unlike his predecessors, he has actually called me a couple of times. Never on the day he said he would call me, but he has actually spoken with me on the telephone and left voicemail messages for me. It’s not perfect, but at this point my expectations are so low.
What disturbs me most now is the content of his messages. He told me that he has called and emailed his headquarters trying to resolve the issue. Three weeks since we spoke face to face he related to me in a voicemail that he has yet to receive a reply to his phone calls and emails. No one at his corporate headquarters or the service center he works with will even reply to an email.
The wait begins again (sensing a pattern?)
As we started into May I made a phone call to the store and was told that my «Sevice Expeditor» was no longer in the service department and that if I wanted to talk to someone about a service issue that I’d have to deal with someone else. The woman I spoke to had good news for me — sort of.
My watchband had been ordered from Citizen, and had arrivedat their corporate headquarters. We’re waiting for the folks at the headquarters to get around to shipping it to their store. She told me that she would find out what the schedule was and call me back in the morning.
Two days later I phoned and spoke to my new «Service Expeditor» again. She sounded a bit annoyed that I’d called her so soon. I considered pointing out that she had told me to call the previous day, but I didn’t think there was much point, so I just asked if there was any news. Again I heard that the corporate headquarters had not returned her call. She told me she would call as soon as she had more information to share with me.
Still waiting
As I write, that conversation was ten days ago. Since I walked in to their store over a month ago I’ve sent another watch away for repair and received it back. Without ever speaking to a human being, the movement of my Fossil watch was replaced under warranty and I now have a backup watch for when the Citizen’s band finally breaks. The Fossil is a nice watch and has sentimental value to me (it was a gift from a dear friend) but it’s not solar-powered and the date is small and hard to read, and it needs manual adjustments at the end of months with fewer than 31 days.
I’m very tempted to go behind Tourneau’s back and contact Citizen directly. It would be the smart thing to do. I’m presently in the grips of a rather morbid fascination with Tourneau’s efforts. I’m curious to find out just how long it will take a seller of ten thousand dollar watches to get a watchband from one of the companies they do business with.
Right twice a day
When I was standing at the service counter last time, there was a woman next to me who was waiting to pick up her watch, which had been serviced. One of the service clerks proudly handed it over to her, she looked at it, and said, «it’s not running.» This watch had gone to the service center, come back, and no one noticed that the hands didn’t move.
This is the sort of thing that could happen once — things slip through the cracks in any organization. But this was the fourth time in a row that this watch had gone to the service center and returned without being repaired. The fourth time that someone at the service counter had handed her the watch and said that it was all better. The fourth time she pointed out to the service professional that the hands weren’t moving.
This all paints an unflattering picture. The problem is deeper than the failure of one store to hire and train effective employees. It’s a total systemic failure of a company that realizes all too well that their income comes from selling watches, not by providing customers with service after the sale. In someone’s mind (most likely not the actual mind of an individual but the hive mind of the corporation) customers are a liability. The company makes its money off the reputations of the brands they sell, which combined with choice locations around the country provide a steady stream of new customers. The job of the store is to get the money from the customers and get rid of them.
This company is, like so many others, a leech. It provides no actual benefit to anyone. Yes, they have great locations, but that’s not something they created nor is it a service they provide. They don’t hire people who are capable of getting anything done and they have organized themselves in such a way that their employees don’t have the power to make anything happen.
If brick and mortar retail is to survive, it has to distinguish itself with service. By «distinguish» I don’t mean do the bare minimum it takes to by. By «distinguish» I mean that they have to make the experience of walking into the store worth the time, energy and money spent in so doing. It means eliminating a transient salesforce of people who are accepting being underpaid while they hunt for their next, better job.
If you have a retail store, here’s a simple test: are the people who work for you planning on staying for the next twenty years? If not, why not? It’s probably because you’re not paying them enough. If those individuals aren’t worth it, why haven’t you found individuals that are worth paying more?
Put another way, if your employees were cheating you by providing less service than you expect, what would you do? Now ask yourself, are you not essentially the employee of your customers? I’m your customer. So as your employer I’m delivering you a written reprimand. It’s going into your permanent file, and if you don’t shape up, you’re going to be fired.
deja vu
Getting a watch back from service that’s not running…
Nikon’s El Segundo service center has had my D70 for two specific issues, separated by 3 years. One, a battery drain issue in 2006, and in 2009 a dead shutter.
It’s been to their service center 6 TIMES. for 2 issues.
For that reason alone I’m sticking to Canon (or maybe Pentax) in the near future.
I left my camera in El
I left my camera in El Segundo
Retailers losing all of us
One only has to shop at Walmart to have a similar experience.
TOURNEAU-LAS VEGAS
Don’t go to this location. Crappy service. From sales associate to phone personnel, and not to mention rude service tech. I live in Vegas and I have an Omega seamaster, I didn’t have a choice but to use this location but to be a honest, I wish I could drive to any nearest one in California just to get a good service. Anything is better than this shit hole.
From phone operator who barely speak english, to rude service technicians who does not know anything about a watch, this place is a total wasteland. Walmart and Target are far more service oriented that this place combine.
HIRE SOMEONE WHO SPEAK ENGLISH!
My wife’s watch , Concord Sportivo Mother of Pearl Dial QTZ on Bezel needed to get serviced and cleaned. I was explaining to the technician how it needs cleaning and the movement needs to be fixed. He looked at me with total annoyance, left me at the counter waiting, did not say a word to me, and came back telling me that they don’t have available links for it and that I have to wait 7 – 10 days!. I had explained to him once again what I wanted done. Instead he said ” come back tomorrow for service”. He clearly did not understood.
This is the kind of service I get from a place that sold me a $1600 watch. Place like this makes me sick. They want your money to buy the watch, but does not expect you to come back for any service issues.
I left upset and planned to call to talk to a manager. I called the next day, and I was told be an operator, again, with a very strong accent, that all the ” people ” in the store are busy and that I should call back again the next day. What a joke.
This establishment does not know the word ” service “. The next time I consider buying a watch, I will take my business somewhere else. Someplace else where people do speak my language.… ” ENGLISH”.
Exact thing that happened to
Exact thing that happened to me when I went to this location. I was ignored by a service technician and asked me to come back in the morning because ’ he no can help me ‘. For the kind and price of what they are selling, they should have a very knowledge staffs to attend to the customers.
I will not buy a watch here again.
“Hire someone who speak
“Hire someone who speak english”????
Oh the irony.…
Maybe they will when you learn to write it.
Worse Service.
You cannot get anybody to help you in this location. Sales rep walks around ignoring customers, and they are pre-judging you as soon as you walk in the store. Its like telling you we don’t want your business. It’s a shame I love their selection and great location, as well.
Either you call and you get no help, you come in hoping to talk to someone and still be ignored. I hate this place. The one in San Diego isn’t any better either but at least I got to talk to someone and got answers I needed about Santos 100!
Booo Tourneau Las Vegas