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Where do you fall on the liberal — conservative political spectrum? (United States)
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Just remember that by San Francisco-Berkeley standards, I’m a right-wing fascist. OK, maybe just a moderate fascist. But certainly far enough to the right of center in SF politics to generally avoid telling any of my close friends who I vote for.
The lefties are the
The lefties are the political establishment around here, and they act like it: paying as much attention to protecting their power base as to furthering their stated ideals, etc. Rather unbecoming.
My girlfriend went to see Fahrenheit 9/11 with a friend, because I had no interest in it. He knew right away why I didn’t want to go: “because he’s anti-establishment [me, not Moore].”
I definitely prefer living here over places where conservatism is the establishment, because here, at least the ideas that people swallow without really thinking about them are ones that I agree with.
I have an ego thing about having come to liberalism the hard way. I was raised as an Eisenhower/Nixon/Ford Republican (though one might not think so, different, oh so different from the Goldwater/Reagan/Bush-Bush variety).
By the time of the first presidential election I participated in, 1980, I had used my intellect and moral compass to become a John Anderson supporter. Yep, I’ve been “throwing away my vote” on 3rd party/independent candidates from the very beginning. Anderson in 1980, Nader in 2000, if the Democrats throw up a loser like Gore, I won’t vote for them just because they’re Not Republican.
Kerry will probably get me this year, unless he shows himself to be unworthy.
At this point, I’d pretty
At this point, I’d pretty much have to find out Kerry is one of the Lizard People for him not to get my vote. And actually, being bred for food isn’t that much worse that what we get from Bush, so maybe having a Lizard Person for President would be kinda cool.
See, that’s what’s amusing. I’m still to the right of center in Bay Area politics, because I have to stop and think about whether I’d rather have Bush for four more years or be bred for food for the Lizard People. If I wee really a True Believer it would be ANYONE but Bush 2004.
BTW, didn’t the elder Bush really fit in more with the Ike/Nixon/Ford group than the Goldwater/Reagan/Dubya set?
I met John Anderson in 1980. Yay me.
I, too, still haven’t seen F/911. I’m more interested in finding out about stuff that I’m undecided about, or viewpoints in opposition to mine. The sermons are kind of tedious from the choirbox.
“BTW, didn’t the elder Bush
“BTW, didn’t the elder Bush really fit in more with the Ike/Nixon/Ford group than the Goldwater/Reagan/Dubya set?”
He did at one time, before he sold his soul to Satan. That’s one of the reasons he’s such a sad case. In 1980, when he was running in the primaries against Reagan, he was a supporter of reproductive freedom, and pretty much tried to characterize his main opponent as a whacko.
When Ronnie’s handlers offered him the running mate slot, his decision was either uphold his (I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say “true”) values and probably fade into obscurity, or recant some very important things (remember, he’s the one who called Reagan’s economics “voodoo”) and get to be Vice President, and then maybe President.
As Pink Floyd put it, he exchanged his walk-on part in the war for a leading role in the cage.
Part of the horror of 1980.